John Barrera and Milton Chang in conversation

2 Generations,
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Experience Matters
with Milton & John

Every week they take a question people are actually stuck on — getting laid off in your forties, graduating into a market with no jobs, what success is even for — and work through it out loud.

About the Show

Milton Chang and John Barrera are friends, Caltech alumni, and entrepreneurs from two different generations. Milton brings decades of company-building, investing, mentoring, and life experience. John brings a current-day perspective shaped by technology, leadership, family, and reinvention. Together they compare notes, challenge each other, and share practical lessons from things they have actually lived through.

Meet the Hosts

Milton Chang smiling

Milton Chang

“Nothing is hard once you figure out how to do it.”

Married 60 years, father of two. Arrived with $500. Caltech PhD. Two IPOs. Still building at 85.

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John Barrera

“Everybody has a superpower. You just have to recognize what it is.”

Father of three. GM of a game studio, 80+ people. Now a SaaS CTO. Failed startups. Layoffs, both sides.

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